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    Let's see some plummets
    Posted by [Weepingeyegorget]

    Moderator Note: this thread was first posted in 2012 but failed to transfer across to the new forum when the software was updated, and so has been re-created manually.

    ok.. lets see your plummets!! I have a few more broken ones and some cruder ones I am not posting.. But these are some of my better examples!

    minature quartz crystal very rare

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    Illinois Pipestone example

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    Quartz example Ohio

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    Hardstone KY

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    Hardstone Illinois

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    Hematite examples, Ohio and KY.. all local two of which were found by a hunting buddy.. I get stuck with broken and crude ones..

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    Posted by [paleo kurt]
    wow what a collection of plummets, woodland master pieces. i cant help but wonder what they were actually used for? i have read lots of diffrent opinions on their uses. thanks for sharing.
    Last edited by painshill; 04-13-2020, 04:12 PM.
    I keep six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who.

  • #2
    Posted by [kenwhite]
    my newest, at 9+ inches from the Columbia River region in northern Oregon

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    Posted by [gregszybala]
    Thanks gents, wish I could share but none found around here yet!
    Some beauties!


    Posted by [CMD]
    Hardstone, 8 inches, East Providence, RI.

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    Posted by [CMD]
    A plummet that is both grooved and knobbed:

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    From Maine. Great Auk effigy??

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    Kent Co, RI:

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    Last edited by painshill; 04-13-2020, 04:15 PM.
    I keep six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who.

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    • #3
      Posted by [CMD]
      Personal find by my wife, Westport, Ma. We "recognize" 2 basic plummet types in New England. "Classic", well made and symmetrical. "Clumsy" plummets cruder. Classic plummets are usually dated as early as Middle Archaic, Clumsy are Late Archaic. In New England.
      This one found by my wife has a figure 8 formed by inclusion at the top of the knob.

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      Another Classic plummet, RI...

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      From Willoboughy's Antiquities of he New England Indians(1935), Classic plummets from New England:

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      Large New England Classics in the 6-8 inch range:

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      Posted by [CMD]
      Personal find sandstone Clumsy Plummet, RI...

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      Posted by [Jeffery Howle]
      I have none to share...but loved the show. You all have some very nice ones from tiny to extra large.

      Posted by [TexasHarper]
      ...so Jealous!!!
      That first quartz piece....WOW!!!!

      Posted by [Weepingeyegorget]
      thanks for coming through with some pictures.. The columbia river one I really like.. I usually see them listed as charmstones but I suppose they are just about the same thing as plummets since they look identical.. The northeastern US examples are all really nice, and those are great personal finds.. the ones we find are usually archaic, unless they are groove in the center, they are called adena plummets, or acorn variety usually associated with adena culture..

      Posted by [SDhunter]
      Thanks for the show. Haven't found any of them yet, and maybe they aren't even found around here.
      Gary


      Posted by [kenwhite]
      This is my favorite group of artifacts, so here are two more trays in my collection (and all of these are from northern California). For any interested, Coyote Press has available Further Notes on California Charmstones by Elsasser and Rhode which is the best I've found to date talking about and offering a typology of these relics. And fyi, that translucent example earlier in this thread is fantastic!!!

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      I keep six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who.

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      • #4
        Posted by [tomclark]
        Personal finds FL West Central Coastal I'm kinda partial to plummets.
        You guys have posted some filthy plummets!@ Boom on that.

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        Last edited by painshill; 04-13-2020, 04:22 PM.
        I keep six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who.

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        • #5
          Posted by [tomclark]
          More:

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          Posted by [chase]
          Thank you all! I am enjoying the show, can't wait to see more.

          Posted by [tomclark]
          Oh, so you want to see the funky ones???
          Actually I would love to see the broken and funky ones that anyone has found. I'll post some later.
          The funky ones I can see being weight-tools of some sort. But the fine ones, at least down here, I believe were adornment.
          Last edited by painshill; 04-13-2020, 04:23 PM.
          I keep six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who.

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          • #6
            Posted by [kenwhite]
            One of my favorites, this from the Tulare Lake Region in Central California (a source of many charmstones as well as points and other relics). As for their purpose, well I don't claim the expertise or education to offer an opinion worth anyone's time, but I am drawn to something I recently read in an old article in the Pacific Coast Archeological Society Quarterly (Volume 36, Number 2, Spring 2000). The author, Frank Wood, is writing about perforated stones from San Clemente Island (usually called donut stones, a relic some think may in fact be related to charmstones). Addressing the issue about how or for what these were used and referring to different views voiced by different Native American informants, Wood writes: “In spite of the variations in spelling, it is apparent that these are accounts referring to the same item, well known to the informants. The most significant thing about them is their clear demonstrations of multiple uses for the same object, some ritual and some secular. The makes it impossible and indeed unnecessary to seek a single explanation for the function of archeological finds of this kind. The best that can be done is to lay out a range of possibilities....”

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            Posted by [RyanVa]
            Hematite examples and a favorite personal find from se WV.

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            Posted by [Weepingeyegorget]
            now that is what im talking about, the classic acorn plummet! usually adena culture

            Posted by [Rock queen]
            Wow!! Love the show unfortunately never seen any thing like that out here or in any collections out here.
            Last edited by painshill; 04-13-2020, 04:25 PM.
            I keep six honest serving-men (they taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When and How and Where and Who.

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