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Regardless of who's ancestors they were (and we don't know) decimation of that burial site was WRONG!
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This site / Mound was just across the bay they most likely could see each others smoke . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emeryville_Shellmound
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Every dam that’s built covers untold amounts of artifacts buried under water forever. The pecos , devils river/Rio grand river is a classic example of burying untold dry shelters with invaluable perishables/organics . Most of the roads built along rivers pave over many sites with Little to no work done . My uncle worked for the highway Dept and had to have state archeological studies done during road projects and there was a huge mound brm near a bridge and they purposely dug on the opposite side of the road and said they found nothing and gave an all clear which is standard operating procedure . Oh well
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Just rescanned the article...My comment doesn’t make any sense,..Lol
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Originally posted by Mattern View PostI don't know when I'm dead I'm dead! If someone wants to pry my rings off my bones, who am I to stop them. I believe in the santivety of the Tribes. But if they stop one project because of NA antiquities and not another doesn't make sense to me, they should have a national standard. Very interesting read (double standard). Kim
You’re familiar with the scenario from your favorite horror movies: when a family moves into a house inconveniently built on top of a graveyard, ghostly shenanigans and otherworldly horrors ensue. But it’s not just a plot in Poltergeist - cemeteries are relocated more frequently than you might think. We like to think that the bodies make the move along with their headstones, but as you’ll see, that’s not always the
This is America and, for better or worse, property rights and money set the rules. In this case Graton band are simply exercising those same rights.
Personally, I agree with South Fork that it would have been nice to leave it untouched, but I'm not about to lecture indians on how to respect their dead ancestors.
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I don't know when I'm dead I'm dead! If someone wants to pry my rings off my bones, who am I to stop them. I believe in the santivety of the Tribes. But if they stop one project because of NA antiquities and not another doesn't make sense to me, they should have a national standard. Very interesting read (double standard). Kim
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Its about the money Larkspur got 2 1/2 acres of land worth millions what did the Graton Band get ? This should have been fenced and left alone all the experts have more than enough remains to study . There were many mounds mined for the shell all around the bay . Another way to look at this would you want your family paved over ?
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I remember this story. Tainted by money and local politics but still, at it's core, about Archeology versus Tribal sovereignty. Though I sympathize with the archeologists , I side with the tribes.
Truth is, there has been extensive study of shell mounds and archeological sites around the San Francisco bay for more than a century. Investigations in Larkspur might possibly bring some new insight (condor find is amazing, though I doubt they were being kept as pets), but more likely it would just add statistical data that wouldn't significantly advance our knowledge.
Indians rightly see artifacts as cultural property, have no historic love for archeology, nor the will to accommodate it and can, in a case like this, exert some power in the real world.
If they choose to relocate ancient remains and pave it over, so be it. If they make a little money and political headway in the process, so be it. Whatever the motivation, there's no reason to believe it's anything but the will of the tribes.
People who love artifacts as objects will mourn the loss. People who see artifacts cultural remains may find it more forgivable/understandable/appropriate.
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Very interesting, ..Burials before the bow and arrow, hmmm...good read Dennis.Last edited by Hal Gorges; 03-16-2021, 01:35 PM.
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