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Garguy has posted some points like the second translucent one. i forgot what he called them but i think he was saying he thought them to be older than Clovis points. i think he called them slouth slayer points.South East Ga. Twin City
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Here’s the paper, with enlarged photos of the projectiles.
Rhode Island
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Many sites throughout the Americas (both North and South) have been found that pre-date Clovis. I always had a gut feeling that there were pre-Clovis cultures. Common sense told me that you just jump to a Clovis point technology from nothing at all. My curiosity causes me to wonder where did the Clovis point originate. Again my gut feeling is telling me that it originated in what is now the southeast USA. There are some things about fluted points in general that leads to that feeling but I am not going to expound on that now. But as usual it would not surprise me that I may very well be wrong.
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Yea, theres some information still missing on that if in fact they are pre -clovis. 2500-3000 yrs and go from a small stemmed dart straight to a rather large fluted clovisish projectile. Hows that happen 🤔. Shared technology from outsiders from abroad? I think i need to go through my commons boxes though……think i may have some stemmed pre-clovis’s.
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Originally posted by SDhunter View PostI’ve found many points that look like those, but I doubt they are paleo. How did we get to calling stemmed points pre Clovis?
I posted this news 12 years ago, on Arrowheadolgy, and the guys there went nuts. Raked the news over the coals. “Those are not Paleo, those are Archaic!!” Well, no, they are not. But, I imagine there would be problems deciding if you found a Paleo stemmed point, or an Archaic stemmed point. But, while this article from a dozen years ago is about Channel Island sites where the stemmed points and crescents are later than Clovis, it’s not by much, and now we know this type of stemmed is indeed older than Clovis. But, in general., we’ve known for awhile now that there was another tradition in the Far West that is as old as Clovis…
https://insider.si.edu/2011/03/calif...aring-economy/
Channel Islands, dated 12,200-11,400 years…
Last edited by CMD; 01-01-2023, 08:52 AM.Rhode Island
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Originally posted by PaleoSnow View PostYea, theres some information still missing on that if in fact they are pre -clovis. 2500-3000 yrs and go from a small stemmed dart straight to a rather large fluted clovisish projectile. Hows that happen 🤔. Shared technology from outsiders from abroad? I think i need to go through my commons boxes though……think i may have some stemmed pre-clovis’s.
Rhode Island
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