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  • Sage hen jack
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    Chase. This is one of best Posts I’ve wandered across on this forum. Informative and very cool! Thanks for sharing. All that lithic appears to be the same. Wow!

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  • clovisoid
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    An old post, but a great one. Thank you for posting it Chase!

    This link should take you to a page where you can read more about the site. (And great color pictures if’n you just want to look at a really cool variety of Northern Plains paleo.)

    Really cool stuff!

    PDF | We report major new insights from recent research at the Powars II Paleoindian red ocher quarry (48PL330). We salvaged more than 7,000 artifacts from Powars II between 2014 and 2016 by screening redeposited sediment from the talus slope below the intact portion of the site....

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  • SDhunter
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    I hope to visit that site some day if visitors are welcome. Thanks for sharing

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  • painshill
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    Originally posted by 11KBP View Post

    Olden, the Sunrise Iron Mine and the Powars II site are one and the same location.

    http://www.pcrecordtimes.com/v2_news...&story_id=3773
    Correct!

    Just in case folks have been Googling for information and didn’t find much…. That link may help.


    As it says, the site is actually “Powars II” (with an ‘a’ not an ‘e’). It was named after a coach at Sunrise High School who discovered it near the town’s YMCA in the 1930’s but didn’t tell anyone in the archaeological community. As such, it remained undocumented for 70 years.

    It’s also known as the “Sunrise Mine Site” and has the archaeological site designation 48PL330

    The site name is sometimes mis-spelled as “Powers” in various publications (as it was originally in this thread, before correction).




    The original discoverer is believed to be Wayne Powars and he is believed to have found the first artefacts there in 1939. He actually shared his finds with George Frison and Dennis Stanford at the Smithsonian in the early 1980s. They both went to the site shortly afterwards, didn’t find very much and lost interest.

    In 1986 Powars was at a Sunrise school reunion and learned that federal mining reclamation was underway, and the site was in imminent danger. He called Frison again, who set about halting the destruction of the site. The original owners of the land (the Colorado Fuel and Iron company) had in the meantime gone bankrupt and sold out to a private owner who refused permission for any excavation or access.

    Some 20 years later, John Voight privately purchased the property and then granted permission for archaeological work to begin. He still owns the site today and enthusiastically welcomes visitors.

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  • Cskelton
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    What an amazing opportunity... those don't come along often.

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  • chase
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    Originally posted by 11KBP View Post

    Olden, the Sunrise Iron Mine and the Powars II site are one and the same location.

    http://www.pcrecordtimes.com/v2_news...&story_id=3773
    Thank you 11KBP you are right Getting older, but it was good to see you there.

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  • 11KBP
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    Originally posted by Olden View Post
    Here's a short vid. of a similar Wyoming paleo mining site: the Sunrise Iron Mine. George Frison is involved here as well.
    Olden, the Sunrise Iron Mine and the Powars II site are one and the same location.

    http://www.pcrecordtimes.com/v2_news...&story_id=3773

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  • chase
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    Originally posted by Olden View Post
    An archaeologically paleo rich place to live Chase - has everyone found a Clovis but me!?
    Here's a short vid. of a similar Wyoming paleo mining site: the Sunrise Iron Mine. George Frison is involved here as well.

    [YT]EFTOxy3xix0[/YT]
    Oh BTW I dont have Clovis Just Folsom

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  • chase
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    Originally posted by Olden View Post
    An archaeologically paleo rich place to live Chase - has everyone found a Clovis but me!?
    Here's a short vid. of a similar Wyoming paleo mining site: the Sunrise Iron Mine. George Frison is involved here as well.

    [YT]EFTOxy3xix0[/YT]
    Thank you Olden. I made a mistake a few years back. I had been following Dr. Frizion since the seventies. I felt I knew him and when I got first introduced I shook his hand and said nice to meet you GEORGE I got a look of what the F.... but a smile drew across his face. I Made a major mistake for not addressing him proper. But the drive there and back had little to do with artifacts and more of his days ranching and hunting game. He is a Man of I will say am glad I got to meet.

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  • Olden
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    An archaeologically paleo rich place to live Chase - has everyone found a Clovis but me!?
    Here's a short vid. of a similar Wyoming paleo mining site: the Sunrise Iron Mine. George Frison is involved here as well.

    [YT]EFTOxy3xix0[/YT]

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  • chase
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    Originally posted by Kyflintguy View Post
    Cool post Chase! Thanks for sharing it with us, looks like a very interesting site indeed! How common is finding sourcable ochre in your area, I know a guy in R.I looking for some lol!
    KY i dont know enough to say where to find it. I know it is out here but I am just an artifact hunter. I talked to Dr. Frision and he thought it was cerimonial and I think medisnal

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  • chase
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    Originally posted by sailorjoe View Post
    Chase, Thanks for sharing your experience. If I understand correctly, the artifacts in the frames were collected as a salvage by professional archaeologists. That is an impressive display. Do you know where they are located or who has possession of them now?
    University of Wyoming, I got to handle a few of the artifacts when the casts where being made. Yeah on the way up we discussed the why. when I got there I could see why. the sough off the hill side was enough to mix the artifacts. So no context was could be recorded..

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  • sailorjoe
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    Chase, Thanks for sharing your experience. If I understand correctly, the artifacts in the frames were collected as a salvage by professional archaeologists. That is an impressive display. Do you know where they are located or who has possession of them now?

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  • Kyflintguy
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    Cool post Chase! Thanks for sharing it with us, looks like a very interesting site indeed! How common is finding sourcable ochre in your area, I know a guy in R.I looking for some lol!

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  • chase
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    Originally posted by gregszybala View Post
    Thanks for sharing this Chase. Are there any papers that have been published on the site?
    Greg I want to say I am sorry I got a little bit off the cuff. what I meant was that when I have respect for those that know I would never steal there accolades.

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