I had a brainstorm (brain fart) yesterday, about going to a local creek for arrowheads. Miraculously, My parents took me there, and most of the water was really shallow because of the lack of rain, but there was also these crystal clear pools, that went down about five feet. I donned a face mask, and proceeded to dive, and then shot out of the water because, this is a mountain stream after all. It was FREEZING! After several attempts to acclimate myself to the cold water, I swam underwater for a little bit, but came back with nothing. Have any of you ever done something like this, and has it ever worked?
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Has anybody ever went snorkeling for points?
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Since I created this old thread, I did try it in the river where our family summer home was located. We always had success there screening river bottom, so I did try it with some success. Just putting this old thread here, because I still love the idea of the mask shown at the Daily Mail link, although I never did order one...
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I’ve thought about it but I’d hate to come face to face with some of the critters we have here. One time the creek went so low there was a huge snapper crawling around. Then we have beavers and otters to. Otters are cute but can be ferocious with them teeth especially if they have young ones.NW Georgia,
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I wade the thigh-deep shallows at low tide along the Rappahannock River & often find fossil shark teeth & the occasional Lecroy. The waters teem with skates & rays with nasty barbs, so I wouldn’t want to stick my face in the water. 😳Child of the tides
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Might want to use ear plugs also creeks can have bacteria that can make you sick. Just a thoughtNW Georgia,
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My wife almost lost an eye via a freshwater acanthamobea infection. Drove here to Massachusetts Eye and Ear Clinic, part of Mass General, twice a week, then once a week, then once a month for over a year. An infection so rare my wife became the subject of an international eye doctor conference in Boston. They saved her eye, thank God.
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I go in the creeks all the time but don’t stick my head under ever. Just to many chemicals in them run off and I’m sure the weed killer stuff washes in them.
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Too late. I dive in there wearing nothing but goggles. I figure if the Lord means me to get sick, I'm gonna get sick.
Now I probably will wear earplugs next time, and a wet suit so I don't freeze to death next time. I can hold my breath for about a minute underwater, but it was so cold, I came up every 15 seconds to breathe and sun myself."The education of a man is never completed until he dies." Robert E. Lee
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The Isolated Finds Program, sometimes referred to as the Isolated Finds Policy, was implemented by Florida's Department of Historic Resources in 1994 and ended in June 2005.[1][8] The Isolated Finds Program was intended to establish a way for private citizens to legally collect archaeological artifacts and report them to the state. In order to be legally collected the artifacts had to be on submerged state lands such as river bottoms and displaced from their original context.[9] Isolated artifacts on submerged lands are often thought to be removed from their context and original place of deposition which would mean that they have lost much of their historical and cultural significance. Unfortunately amateur, citizen archaeologists are not qualified to determine whether or not an artifact is in its original context, which often led to the destruction of archaeological sites under the protection of the Isolated Finds Program.[9] Florida is also unique in that its rivers do not flow like the rivers of other states with isolated finds programs. Rivers in Florida are generally very slow flowing and are composed of fill sediments that hold artifacts very well, making isolated artifacts less likely to occur.[1] The Isolated finds program was discontinued on June 1, 2005 following a recommendation from the Florida Historical Commission.[9] The program was widely considered a failure as issues of non-compliance from citizens basically defeated the program's purpose and instead provided a legal front for the looting of archaeological sites and the illegal artifact trade. Additionally, citizens often reported isolated finds that were later referenced and discovered to be from known archaeological sites, further highlighting the difficulty of determining whether or not a find is isolated.[9] Some do argue that the program had some success, citing the first 8 years of the program in which there were 660 reports from a total of 86 individuals of 4,939 prehistoric and 103 historic artifacts. While these numbers show that some finds were reported there is no way to determine how many finds went unreported or were not actually isolated.[10] Following the discontinuation of the Isolated Finds Programs, groups have lobbied for a bill every year that would bring back the program, at least to some degree, with the Citizen Archaeology Permit bills of 2016 being the most notable.[8]
NINE YEARS ONLY 660 REPORTS FROM A TOTAL OF 86 INDIVIDUALS. I was one of those who provided honest reports.
Read carefully. This was WONDERFUL help for honest collectors and unscrupulous people used it for greed/financial gain. Damaged the hobby in all ways. Coming to your state!
Here are the very last "legal" points I found in the Santa Fe River and provided reports for. Diving/Snorkeling has not been the same ever since the abolishment of this program. In some places the rangers will ticket you for fanning algae. This program was run with the Florida Fossil Permit program. We must have a permit to take any fossils (except shark's teeth) from state lands and waters. When you came across an artifact you could keep it (if they didn't want it after you filed the report). There have never been more Florida river artifacts/points being sold every day like now.Professor Shellman
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A few comments from an experienced skin diver: Yes, people go snorkeling successfully for artifacts, and not just the Indian variety. Don't worry about the critters; they won't bother you if you leave them alone, even snapping turtles. If anything, you'll be able to spot them easier below the surface. Unless you live in the tropics, you'll absolutely need a wet suit, including a hood. Even if the water is plenty warm enough for swimming, prolonged submersion will chill you to the bone, and hypothermia is always a possibility. Don't even think about diving in dirty, stagnant, or murky water. You won't find a damned thing, and it's not worth the risk. Yes, you can pick up infections in any water, but you're far more likely to pick them up from a shopping basket at Walmart, or any place where the public puts their grubby paws. (wet suits offer good protection against cuts, etc.) Steer clear of lakes or rivers that are anywhere near pollution sources, like old septic systems, agricultural runoff, etc. As mentioned, use ear plugs to avoid ear problems. And most importantly, never, and I mean NEVER go alone. It's just as easy to get into trouble in three feet of water as it is 30 feet down. All that said, if I had younger eyes, I'd go out with a mask and snorkel in a heartbeat.
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Great thread thanks everyone for all the information . In my day we could drink from any stream flowing in the 60’s/70’s and before on the west coast .
And now even here in Hawaii there are diseases from fresh water pools . We all done wet suits . Like Peter said never go alone . It’s the Buddie system .
I would also sit on the rocks and time the tanks waiting for
buddies to surface .
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Originally posted by Cotton1961 View PostYes you can look for bottles and fossils but not Indian artifacts. Looks like they would like for them to be recovered and saved for the next generation to appreciate!!!!NW Georgia,
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Open your eyes and ears when you are miles from homes in the wilderness and see for yourself
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Reminds me of a story a Pennsylvania man once told me. He saw a mountain lion, and contacted the DNR, and they said that there were NO mountain Lions in this state. A week later, the man shot it, and buried it. Within an hour, DNR showed up asking for the body.
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The property I just got done looking on upstream about 2 miles I had permission there for a while the owner had cams and showed me pics. There was a bear, tan panther and a black panther on them. They are in the wild but just aren’t pose to be here. That spot has homes just scattered miles apart. I also saw the big red coyote out there this year looked like a coyote and a husky mix. Husky body with a coyote face. He was big farmers saw it also
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