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    Well Coach inspired me to buy a rock on eBay. I hope it's real. Don't know much about fossils other than I will never find the ones I truly want. Have a couple more to get but it's pricey. This is a Carpinus Grandis from the Miocene. Hoping to get some information on it like what it evolved in to today. From Poland. I plan on purchasing a fern fossil and a nice trilobite as well.

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    Montani Semper Liberi

  • #2
    Thats one cool fossil!
    Josh (Ky/Tn collector)

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    • #3
      Hey Mike, That is a beautiful leaf fossil. Mike is that another fossil in the lower right near the back?
      Michigan Yooper
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      • #4
        Ron I'm not sure. Will let you know when it is in hand
        Montani Semper Liberi

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        • #5
          Wow nice looking fossil. Thanks for showing us.
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          • #6
            Glad to be inspiring ha. That is a very neat fossil.

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            • lukecreekwalker
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              Next time make it something free. I had to explain to my wife that I bought a rock from Poland today lol

            • CoachG
              CoachG commented
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              I hope that went over well. Try selling something of hers to cover the expense if you really want to upset her ha.

            • lukecreekwalker
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              Not sure which pile of shoes I will start with first lol

          • #7
            That is so crisp and clear Mike the experts here should have no difficulty pointing you in the right direction.
            Bruce
            In life there are losers and finders. Which one are you?

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            • #8
              Very handsome! How big is this rock?
              Child of the tides

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              • lukecreekwalker
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                Not very big. Haven't received it yet but it says the fossil is about 3 inches long

            • #9
              That’s a nice crisply detailed specimen. Carpinus grandis was originally classified by Unger in the 1800s and is part of the Betulaceae (Birch) family which includes birches, alders, hazels and hornbeams. Carpinus is a hornbeam.

              Betulaceae is one of the most difficult families to differentiate by genus based on fossil leaf morphology alone and relies on a combination of comparisons to modern species, association with fossil “fruits” and microscopic examination of cuticles in fossil leaves where the preservation is complete. The taxonomy has been revised a number of times by various researchers and I believe the most recent assignation is “Carpinus grandis Unger emend. Heer” (where “emend” means “revised by”). As an assignation, it’s currently regarded as a “collective” that includes several morphotypes of fossil leaves rather than definitively a single species (Mai & Walther 1978, 1988, Hummel 1991, Zastawniak & Walther 1998).

              These trees would probably have looked pretty similar to the modern hornbeam Carpinus betulus:

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              • lukecreekwalker
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                I was going to say it looked like a beech tree leaf. That's pretty cool stuff. Never heard of a hornbeam before so I will check your link out. Very much appreciated Painshill.
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