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    Friend Kathleen is hunter in county next to WillJo’s, and went to Fernandina Beach, Florida recently. She returned with beach-find fossils for me, including 2 dozen sharks’ teeth, two vertebrae, and the star of the show, what appeared to be an aquatic-something’s little jaw bone:


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    Very cool, huh?! Looks kinda baleen-like to me, but clearly not whale’s, and baleen made of keratin (like our fingernails) and doesn’t fossilize. After coupla hours dead-end research, cheated by contacting TomClark. And yes o yes, our Professor Shellman knows a Spotted Eagle Ray’s tooth plate when he sees one! Took him about one minute, I think….

    With name, could reverse efforts and found for self identical fossil at University of Tennessee. Both these fossil cuties in mouths of ancient version gliding beauties:


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    Shark teeth fossils can be 25 million years old, but I have never wanted to hunt them. Have friends like Kathleen who do, tho. I always made fun —-waist bent at least 90 degrees, hands clasped behind humpy back, nose as close to sand as possible, feet two-slow-steps-forward, one-slow-step-backward silly awkward dance! (Of course, pretty sure sitting ground for hours and hours, legs akimbo, using little shovel dig giant hole between knees maybe looks silly, too!)

    But these teeth already collected, and all needed to do was separate into same-type groups and identify shark to whom each group belonged. Simple, piece of cake…Hah! I put into 3 groups, but prob’ly shoulda been maybe 6!

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    This description of fossil Tiger Shark teeth: “deeply notched, short blades” (sound familiar?) and I think that’s what 1st group could be. 2nd group has a lotta “Y” shapes, so think could be fossil Sand Tiger Shark teeth; 3rd group (of 3) seems like each had “deep nutrient groove”, so maybe fossil Hammerhead teeth.

    THESE ARE MORE-OR-LESS GUESSES, AND ANYONE WHO KNOWS BETTER, PLEASE CORRECT!
    (I think I’ll save vertebrae for another time. Guessing harder’n knowing, really wears me out…)
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    Digging in GA, ‘bout a mile from the Savannah River

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    Looky present day sharks belonging these teeth:
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    Digging in GA, ‘bout a mile from the Savannah River

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    • Cecilia
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      Uh-o, you mean I was schnookered by Internet info!? I will have to backtrack, get right! Too bad don’t have any shark books ….maybe I should get me one…..

    • Tam
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      Nice one CC

    • Cecilia
      Cecilia commented
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      Thanks Tam!

  • #3
    Very nice of friend Kathleen .. shark teeth fun to find but never actually found any at the beach...Fun post as always Sis....P.S. methinks it’s not the guessing wearing you out but the lack of sleep ( me too )..🙂
    Floridaboy.

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    • Cecilia
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      Gots lots on my mind, Hal, lots on my mind….🙆🏻‍♀️

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    Nice finds and kind gifts., thanks for posting them. Cool Eagle ray mouthplate dentition, I usually just find fragments, not the whole arch. As far as identifications,
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ID:	587714 And the ones in green look like the narrow tooth Makos to me.

    You can identify them at Elasmo/ Faunas/ Lee Creek/ Other Sharks, Ground Sharks...... good luck.
    This site provides information on the extinct and extant elasmobranch teeth

    Coastal Plain of Maryland

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    • Cecilia
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      Have Qs for you, below, please?

    • Cecilia
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      Also, have manta ray story: I was snorkeling Belize, with quite a few rays usta people being in water with them and feeding em. I was feeding one in front of me when got tap on left shoulder blade. I turned head and looked into face I swear with eyes of a Dog! What I mean is that not blank eyes of a fish; somebody with intelligence home in there!
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    • Hal Gorges
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      Definitely a merman sighting,

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    Thank you, thank you, Mondo! I knew I needed more “groups”! And Bulls, Grays, Makos all were definitely sharks swimming in-and-out lil brain last night!
    - Do you think those Y-shaped teeth immediately to both right and left Makos your green box are Sand Tigers, or Snaggly-Tooth cousin?
    -And how about smaller ones right below green box that definitely not Y-shaped?
    -And what do you think those 3 bigger teeth in 3rd group (I called hammerheads) are?……they got some kinda groove running down enamel…

    (Are you already sorry you showed up here this morning? Did anybody tell you I ask a lotta Qs?)
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    Digging in GA, ‘bout a mile from the Savannah River

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    • #6
      Nah, it was a great post to start the day with. Y shaped teeth are most likely Sandtigers. The smaller ones look like Carcharhinids to me, except for the slender one, which is a ST. The only one that might be a Snaggly or Hemipristis would be at 2 O'Clock to the dime, but I thinks it's Prionace (sp). For the three blade like ones, my monitor is real dark and when I lighten the pic w/ software it loses any detail., so could use a better lit pic. Upper right I think is a Mako though.

      When it was proposed that the Mako was the antecedent to megalodon, the genus got revised and split up; so part went to Megarhizodus , the other side is something like Cosmpolidotus, but I'll have to check. So the narrow ones are no longer in the blade like ones genus.

      Oh yeah, there is a active mind behind theirs eyes.
      Coastal Plain of Maryland

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      • Cecilia
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        Alrighty then! Lots to digest….good, needed somethin’ different for dinner! Thank you again! Will retake the last trio. Knew was crappy pic when posted it….

        Also, will hafta regroup groups—-I got Bulls, Grays swimmin’ all over place!
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    • #7
      Wow what a great gift! You seem like you died and went to heaven!
      SW Connecticut

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      • Cecilia
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        I needed a bit o heaven Red; been lil’ brimstoney for me lately!
        Ps Kathleen good, good people; known her 35 yrs, she was in my wedding (one of them!), at birth my child, somewhere lost touch. When refound, go figure, both collecting artifacts! If can get her join forum, will be my greatest contribution!
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      • redrocks
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        Nice C. I'm glad it took away the brimstoniness for ya!

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      With better inside lighting and outside morning sun’s shadow:
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      This better Flint? Looks better, bigger, meaner….Plus big guy’s choppers (of which 🎶I do have a 🎵few)
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      Bigger Spotted Eagle Ray:

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      • flintguy
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        Good job Cecilia, can you see why I loved them as a kid? Big brutes. The other kids loved the great white. I had to be different and go with the tiger.

    • #9
      If none of the three triangular blades have serrated edges they would be Cosmopolitodus hastalis (Broadblade Mako).

      Separately, I can't tell what species of Tiger/ Galeocerdo you have, but if it's the same as the white toothed jaw, G. cuvier, then the larger serration will have serrations on top of them. One of the few shark teeth that have serrated serrations, you should be able to see them with an eye lens. If none, than it's G. abduncus.

      Coastal Plain of Maryland

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      • Cecilia
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        Whata mouthful…. But, hungry today. Thank you ever so much!

        …wow… serrated serrations…..
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    • #10
      Very cool
      South Dakota

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      • Cecilia
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        Yes! Am happy with this diversion!

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      If I drive down to the country I’ll take a pic . People have jaws on the fences .

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      • Cecilia
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        Never thot I’d go for shark stuff, but guess I’m nondiscerning in attraction old stuff…

    • #12
      Cool post and nice collection Cecilia
      Benny / Western Highland Rim / Tennessee

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