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[ApacheNDN]

This pic is not quite the full pic as it has been matted and in frame with museum glass. The neat part you can partially see is in upper left corner. It's a sign that reads "Office Apache Prisoners of War"' It was a pic of the last meeting with the remaining family leaders of my tribe in 1914 after they had negotiated their release. A little more than half the tribe were released in 1913 upon agreeing to move to the Mescalero Apache reservation at Ruidoso, NM. The members that remained were not interested in living on a reservation and the Mescalero were different from us, the Chiricahua Apache. The ones who remained in Oklahoma were given 80 acres each for every man, woman, and child, of leftover allotment lands. I myself still own some of these allotments.

[Hal Gorges]

Thanks for sharing that ...Really liking these post’s

[ApacheNDN]

You're welcome. I didn't go too far into it, but there are some of Geronimo's men in that pic.

[willjo]

Unique history, Thanks for sharing

[Olden]

Historic family photos are real treasures!
Here's a few podcasts links that adds some perspective to the background..

Apache Wars Ep1: “Red Sleeves”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZUlzA-Gpeg

Apache Wars Ep2: "The Bascom Affair"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VDESLPLQ4E

Apache Wars Ep3: “Three Castles”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCDMn4Kf82Q

Apache Wars Ep4: “Geronimo”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrH15vlOoZ8

Geronimo died at Fort Sill, Oklahoma in 1909

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geronimo

[ApacheNDN]

Thanks, I'll check out the podcasts sometime. Most of those types of things are information obtained from my family. For years books were written about us by non Apache people. Then, eventually someone came up with the novel idea to ask the people who were there,and lived it, what happened. I remember there always being authors and different types of people hanging around trying to get our side of things. One of the few people successful in this endeavor was Angie Debo. She actually made friends with some of the families and even then it was years before anyone would tell her anything. Also, I don't think the Wikipedia references Geronimo's Grandfather, Chief Mahko. Who is the Grandfather of most of the last warriors to surrender, incidentally Mahko was one of my great grandfathers as well.

[ApacheNDN]

Oh yeah, I forgot another aithor, Eve Ball.

[Missouri Breaks]

In the middle row, the Apache man with the dark coat and white shirt seems like a leader. Don’t want to assume but he has a presence about him. Amazing photo!

[ApacheNDN]

That man was Betzinez, later took on the name Jason Betzinez. He was a warrior apprentice and horse holder for Goyaklah (Geronimo). He is buried near Geronimo at Ft. Sill. The rumor was that he and his mother dug Geronimo up after his burial and snuck him to the Southwest and reburied him in an undisclosed location. Most people in the tribe doubt this due to our taboos concerning dead people and the ghost sickness. Beside the fact that Geronimo was a very powerful medicine man and warrior and digging him up would definitely bring a curse upon those involved.

[LongStride]

thanks for sharing your family history with us, your very fortunate to have been able to save those negatives , and still have the allotments too!

[ApacheNDN]

You're welcome. Happy to share.

[Hoss]

Wow. Historic photo. The stories those men could tell if they were still with us.

[ApacheNDN]

No doubt. I grew up hearing a lot of that stuff. There were a lot of people that were still alive that were prisoners when I was a kid. I still hear things that were told to other families to this day at our dances and get togethers.

[Olden]

[ApacheNDN]

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[SDhunter]

Thanks for sharing this. I just started reading Geronimo. Forget the author.

[ApacheNDN]

There's a good read that was written with info from our perspective called about Geronimo by Angie Debo. Another good one written with same [ers[ective is "Indeh: An Apache Odyssey" by Eve Ball. And one of my favorites was basically an autobiography, " In the days of Victorio", by James Kaywaykla.