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    About 1900, my grandfather migrated to Southern Arizona from Missouri. He lived in the Flagstaff area, working as a streetcar conductor and brought this pottery piece back with him in 1903. According to my now-deceased mother, she damaged the piece in the early 1930s and was severely reprimanded for doing so.
    The pot is 2" tall and 3 3/4" in diameter. It appears to have been a basket form because there is evidence that a handle was once attached.






    Any assistance in identifying the tribal origins, design meanings, etc., will be very much appreciated. I would also appreciate any recommendations for other sources of research.
    Thanks!
    Bill

     

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    Hi Bill; First of all let me welcome you to the forum. Second I love your user name !!! Third about your pot. Hard to put a figure on who made it. If I were to just guess I would go with a Santo Domingo Pueblo but that is a guess. I do know that what it was was a Easter Basket. The people have been making them for a long time. I post a photo of a Easter Basket that is Hopi. Same size as yours. Now I have two pots similar in age as yours and mine are not worth much. Worth way more as a family item. So bear in mind that  is worth more to you guys than a collector. Broken and cracked it is something you will just want to keep I fear.

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    • #3
      Thank you so much, Wildhorse, for your welcome, and, the speedy reply.  Value is not so much important as its origins.  You have been very kind and helpful.  Again... Thank you!

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      • #4
        Welcome to the board.
        This information below is from - http://www.newmexico.org/culture/pue...todomingo.html
        Santo Domingo Pueblo is located in north-central New Mexico.  Santo Domingo and Cochiti pueblos are the most northeastern of the Keresan language villages. They lie just to the south of Tewa villages and accordingly have felt strong ceramic influences from those neighbors. After the Indian revolt of 1680 this influence became especially strong. Both Santo Domingo and Cochiti discontinued their manufacture of glazeware. For awhile they imported pottery from their Puname (early Zia) and Tewa area, and then gradually these pueblos began to make their own copes of the Tewa styles, using carbon paint for the Tewa-like decorations. The classic type of Tewa-like pottery at Santo Domingo and Cochiti bars the Kiua Polychrome. Kiua is the Indian name for Santo Domingo, and the type was made there principally in the period from 1760 to the present. At Cochiti also the type began about 1760 but by 1830 showed signs of evolving into a different one. By 1850 the style was so distinct that we give it the name Cochiti Polychrome.
        When some of the potters of Santo Domingo finally began to break from the traditional styles of Kiua Polychrome, the departure was much less extreme than at Cochiti.  The resulting vessels, known as Santo Domingo Polychrome, are distinguished from Kiua Polychrome as follows: *The jars are relatively tall, *decoration on the jars is usually not broken up into panels or bands, *red is frequently used in the motifs, *decoration is often naturalistic, with birds and foliage usually predominant, *bowls are rare, few being made.   
        In the legends of the Acoma (OCK-o-ma) peoples, a story is told of the sacred twins leading their ancestors to Ako, the magical white rock which became their permanent home. The twins also discovered and shared with their people, the whitest, finest clay in all the Southwest. Sky City, the old pueblo of Acoma claims to be the oldest continuously occupied settlement in the United States. They may, however, get an argument from the Hopi peoples of Old Oraibi village who also claim this distinction.
        Thin-walled, large ollas, slipped in pure white and decorated in red and black set the standard for Acoma fine pottery ever since the 18th-century. But that hardly begins to describe the intricate and dramatic designs which characterize modern Acoma pottery. In 1880, the railroad caused a major change in the pottery market. Traders and tourists were unable to travel with the larger ollas, so potters turned to making smaller, eccentric, more manageable pieces.

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        • #5
          Graywolf. Thanks for that. The color red was one reason I guessed at Santo Domingo. Also the large area of the designs and the black lines to me say santo domingo. This is one of the tourist pots made around the turn of the century. timetraveler says he wants to keep it and that is good. In Needles Calif there is a old Railroad station and a photo of the local Indian women sitting along the walk selling pots. Boy would I love to go back there now.

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          • #6
            The one posted is not as highly refined as the ones I have seen, but the color scheme of white slip,then painted over in black bars and red triangles says Santo Domingo to me. I wonder if it could be an ealier piece.
            Modern Santo Domingo Basket Pot

            Modern Santo Domingo Dough Bowl

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            • #7
              The problem with the older pieces is that they were not signed. Usually no marks so Unless you are really up on these things it is a guess. I just go by feeling when I see a pot like those. I have one old one also unsigned and not in good shape but something to compare with.

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              • #8
                Yes would need something to compare to set age. No signature on the piece.

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                • #9
                  Enlarging the photo of the bottom reveals what I believe was originally a signature.  But now long gone after wear and fading.
                  You folks are astounding!  Thank you both!!!

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                  • #10
                    Ron good post as usual like the pottery. Don't mean to get off the subject (but). You just took me back in time. Was traveling from northern ca. to tx. in I think march 1983 sure of the 83. Tried to avoid a snow storm and got stuck outside Needles CA. did not miss the snow but it did not last long. Never seen so many cars -and- tractor trailers in the ditch in my life. Was in the middle of the night so did not see much of Needles. Thanks for taking me back anyway was a good time in my life joeroy!!!!

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                    • #11
                      ksrocks; Hope that there is no one on here from Needles. You did not miss much there. Now the town is just about dead from what I can see. We are there in the winter and a lot of retired people around, Hate to see it in the summer.

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                      • #12
                        Hate to hear that Ron about any town in this great country but it is way to common anymore. Jobs go away, people go away and the history goes with them. Do you know are there still Native Americans in that area? If they are im sure its rough time for them to. Thanks Ron!

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                        • #13
                          Well I know for sure that the C.R.I.T. Colorado River Indian Tribes. I think this is what they call that anyway. They are in the area and have a wonderful casino just up river from Needles called Avi. We like it because they have a free RV area where we can stay. Free is good. Nice place and just a few miles from Laughlin Nv. Also  near by is the Mojave Indian reservation. This is by Bull head city Arizona. We spend a lot of time in the area. This is the first winter in 11 years we have not beeen there. Built this house and now we sit in the snow. Already thinking about selling and hitting the road again. The only good thing about the winter here is this forum.

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                          • #14
                            Thanks Ron!

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                            • #15
                              I think the pot was made sometime between 1880 in 1903 when your grandfather bought the piece.

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