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  • Profile Face Effigy - Limestone - Brown County Ohio

    Last edited by FourWinds; 02-28-2019, 03:05 PM.

  • #2
    I’m sorry to say, that’s just a natural stone.
    My name is Gary. I live in NE South Dakota

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    • #3
      yup,natural unaltered by man stone

      aka- leverite,as in lever right where you found it

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      • #4
        I agree with the others, natural stone with an inclusion that eroded out

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        • #5
          Looked like a nutting stone on the backside.
          Last edited by FourWinds; 02-28-2019, 03:08 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FourWinds View Post
            Their all natural stones till someone alters it...
            Right, that's why folks are concluding that it's natural. It hasn't been altered by humans in their estimation, based on long experience in handling artifacts, judging artifacts versus geofacts, etc. I agree, it's a rock, not an artifact. Of course, you may wish to disagree, but that will be the opinion of experienced collectors/hunters of Native American artifacts.

            Rhode Island

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            • #7
              Got some bird shaped stones?

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              • FourWinds
                FourWinds commented
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                Birds play a wide variety of roles in Native American mythology... plenty of bird shaped stones all across Ohio.
                Last edited by FourWinds; 02-28-2019, 03:18 PM.

              • gregszybala
                gregszybala commented
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                You had to ask...😊

            • #8
              Sometimes you have to ask yourself if you're just seeing what you want to see. Look at the quality of other effigy artifacts and compare them to the quality of what you have there, and I think you'll find your answer.

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              • FourWinds
                FourWinds commented
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                Limestone can morph over time when exposed to the elements.
                Last edited by FourWinds; 02-28-2019, 03:21 PM.

            • #9
              This was uncovered beside a large millstone and 3' slate bird.
              Last edited by FourWinds; 02-28-2019, 03:22 PM.

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              • Hoss
                Hoss commented
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                Not a tool I do see some type of fossil brachiopods in the matrix of that rock . Lots of rocks fit nice in a persons hand it does not mean they are tools. Keep looking. Sooner or later you might find an actual artifact.

              • CMD
                CMD commented
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                Good eye, Hoss. If I hadn't enlarged the second photo, I would have missed what look like tiny brachiopods.

            • #10
              I still don't see anything that suggests human modification. That stone looks like it would be next to impossible to work with. But, I am nowhere near an expert in this field so I will just back away slowly.

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              • FourWinds
                FourWinds commented
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                Thanks
                Last edited by FourWinds; 02-28-2019, 03:23 PM.

            • #11
              Oh Oh
              Searching the fields of Northwest Indiana and Southwestern Michigan

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              • #12
                Four Winds, If you have ever found a single artifact I must have missed that thread.

                It's a rock.
                Michigan Yooper
                If You Don’t Stand for Something, You’ll Fall for Anything

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                • FourWinds
                  FourWinds commented
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                  Thanks for your polite input.

              • #13
                Here’s something to take into consideration - and I’m saying this because I have vast experience with limestone living in Texas for the last 40 years. Limestone is an insanely porous and malleable stone. This means that unlike igneous rock , the slightest thing can break , carve , discolor or crush it. The bottom line is that you will find a tremendous amount of fossils in limestone , but not many man made items . You WILL find limestone in all types of bizarre states and very likely some that look like animals or faces.
                The Indian peoples spent many hours making tools and art. They would choose a stone not only for its natural shape , but it’s value to what the finished product would be. It would also have to last.
                I see you post a lot of items and get shot down frequently, believe me- I do this to my husband all the time as he is just learning and his only experience hunting has been with me for the last couple of years. Don’t get discouraged, but DO go through a check list when you find items- what material is it? What other items was it relative to? Are there obvious tool marks ? If took marks are not sharp, was it found in water or an old stream? Are the tool marks uniform? Are there pecking marks ? Are there grinding marks?
                Most importantly, if all looks good- find a contact near you such as the archeology dept of a college and ask them to identify your finds in person!

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                • Hoss
                  Hoss commented
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                  That is awesome advice Tinywolves.

                • FourWinds
                  FourWinds commented
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                  Hi Tinywolves, thanks.
                  Last edited by FourWinds; 02-28-2019, 03:24 PM.
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