Pipe....Fake or real

[Jeffery Howle]

A friend gave me this. He said it look like the end of a spark plug wire. I have concerns on this because looks as if it has a seam. What do yall think?

[chase]

When it comes to pipes I know very little, but I would say fake! JMO

[rmartin]

No, it is not fake....but it is not Native American either. What you have is loosely called a Trade Pipe. These were made primarily by factories in Point Pleasant, Ohio and Pamplin, Va. in the mid 1800's through the early 1900's. They were made in many styles including head shapes. There was even a series of Presidents. http://anthromuseum.missouri.edu/min...linpipes.shtml

[rmartin]

Here is a link to Point Pleasant.http://www.relic-master.com/point_pleasant_pipes.htm

[Jeffery Howle]

Thanks Ray....I will check out the sites....In the one pic you can see the D on it on the other pic not shown is a N...Any ideals on this?.....Nathan Davis....checked out your site :rolf:

[rmartin]

I have no idea on the "D". I would be curious if you find out. Here are a couple of face ones I have found in Central Illinois. I think they are Point Pleasant pipes

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[CliffJ]

Not fake at all, but probably never used by an Indian. In some locales, they may have been sold to Natives but the pipes are fairly late in the scheme of the US. It is a two-part molded pipe, many made in factories but they were also molded in some general stores with molds provided by the factories, made of metal. The one you found may have had the letters added into the mold, such as for the name of the local maker. Here's a good reference on Pamplin VA pipes, and there were other factories in Mogodore Ohio and Point Pleasant Ohio. Here's a good reference on Point Pleasant- https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/...pdf?sequence=1
The reference on Pamplin.   http://anthromuseum.missouri.edu/min...linpipes.shtml
  I think yours is a Point Pleasant plain style or one from a similar mold.

[Jeffery Howle]

Thanks for the info...I checked out the site and looks a lot like this...I believe its a trade pipe made by Nathan Davis...Thus the D on one side and N on the other

This is the N on the other side

[Jeffery Howle]

Oh those are some great looking pipes Ray