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    Countless pre clovis sites are being discovered all over the north American continent I believe a lot of tools points and styles have Ben overlooked and Misclassified as to the actual age. because utter disdane for anything that attempted to break the Clovis first paradigm. I think a major overhaul in thinking is required to the almost unfathomable. discoveries being brought to Light !!!
    New Jersey

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    Such as ?...I’m listening Bull.
    Floridaboy.

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      The recent White Sands human footprints, left 21,000-23,000 years ago, unless those dates of seeds above and below the footprint layers can be called into question, should settle the fact that humans were here during the LGM. The footprint discovery also helps dampen, I hope, inherent objections to discoveries like this cave in Mexico:

      https://bigthink.com/the-past/earlie...000-years-ago/

      Most of our known projectile points have accurate date ranges by now. After all, the dates of known types are never based on surface finds, but on finds made in datable contexts. Here is a recent study calling into question the comparison between pre-Clovis and the Jomon of Japan:

      https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...3.2021.1940440
      Rhode Island

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        Columbus mulumbus lol almost all the pictures of the great chefs I have seen have all had Roman noses. tad strange to me the Stanford paradigm is the only one that makes any sense . No doubt their was a migration through the ice free corridor but that was much later in time perhaps 100,s of thousands of years who actually knows I think we better start looking a little "Deeper Literally " into our past !!!! It might give us all a better look into our future !!!
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        • Hal Gorges
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          I kinda rely on the Bible for a peek into the future 🙂

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        The “overhaul of thinking” you refer to has in fact been taking place for awhile now. Where “the peopling of the Americas” is concerned, we have barely started to understand, IMHO. Archaeology is a hidebound discipline, and new ideas are not accepted as quickly or easily as many interested amateurs would like. Thomas Kuhn’s seminal work, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, explains how change happens in science. Sometimes, science advances “one funeral at a time”.

        Think “the White Sands fossil footprints” discovery, because that discovery alone will necessitate the “major overhaul” that the conservative branch of Paleo studies in North America has resisted overall. It is going to be very hard to dismiss the fact that humans were here during the Last Glacial Maximum. And they may not have left any genetic trace at all.
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          Originally posted by Bullheadtee View Post
          Columbus mulumbus lol almost all the pictures of the great chefs I have seen have all had Roman noses. tad strange to me the Stanford paradigm is the only one that makes any sense . No doubt their was a migration through the ice free corridor but that was much later in time perhaps 100,s of thousands of years who actually knows I think we better start looking a little "Deeper Literally " into our past !!!! It might give us all a better look into our future !!!
          Please don’t tell me “great chiefs having Roman noses” is your idea of genetics and the Americas, lol….and the Solutrean hypothesis is certainly not the ONLY one that makes sense. We already know Western Eurasian Paleolithic hunters contributed to native ancestry in Asia itself, prior to arrival in the Americas.
          Last edited by CMD; 10-17-2021, 11:28 AM.
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            Some chiefs had Jewish ears and some had Viking chins.🙁🤔
            Floridaboy.

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            • redrocks
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              And Irish Eyes

            • Hal Gorges
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              Are smiling 😊

            • CMD
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              Hahahaha….

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            Dub lays it out in this presentation, future of anthropology as far as "who were the first Americans" looks to be a wide open field of study at present
            2ET703 South Central Texas

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              I have said it for years just glad to see some rock solid discoveries cool video !!!!
              New Jersey

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                I'm sure who ever the were they came across the Alaskan land bridge and beat feet across the White Sands leaving their footprints while rushing to Mexico.
                SE IA

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                  Whoever was here first started out at Noah's Ark
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                  • redrocks
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                    Oh .man Charlie that really complicates things...I thought I new the answer.....I'll do more research ...hope u guys are doing good up there in RI brother!

                  • oldrocks2
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                    And buried your saucer at oak island.

                  • CMD
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                    Haha, thanks for all the laughs, guys. Red, doing fine in Rhode Island. My spots are all played out, but I can’t complain. We had our day, and then some. Hope you’re doing good too, Red!
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