Help in Identifying Spearhead

[gregszybala]

Is that you? If so, welcome back!

[Graywolf]

Thats a san saba knife my friend no doubt ...not a spear head cool piece

[SDhunter]

Thanks for checking back with us.

[Pinetree1]

I can't tell you for sure by looking at pics, but the big spear reminds me of a Grey Ghost. In the first pic the point on the bottom left looks modern. It represents no known point style. Grey Ghosts are also modern reproductions. You can look them up online. These are just my opinions. You can take em or leave em. I hate to have to be honest sometimes! Thanks for posting them. Oh, I hear that Rogers is a good authenticator.😀

[Hoss]

You are very honest to come back and appologize and give us the low down. May I ask who helped you dientify the modern stuff? Thanks for checking back with us. I hope you keep them seperate moving forward. It is OK to own modern they make for some nice displays and study pieces as long as you have them labeled or Identifiable as modern. Your Grand Father cherished them. There is no reason why you and your family should not do the same.

[DRid123]

Tried acetone, xylene and lacquer thinner on the spearhead.. They had no affects on it, whatsoever.

[DRid123]

I do not have a Google page, never have.. But agree the spearhead is very similar to mine, almost looks to be the same. It is not.. His measures 9", Mine 10" and there are variances between them.. This is not the same spearhead, someone else has that one, not me. Authentic???

I think some of the arrowheads depicted with the spearhead are not authentic.

The spearhead appears to be authentic. We will know soon. The larger collection appears to be authentic for the most part. They were found separately along with the spearhead.

Again, Thank You

Danny

[Jethro355]

I would like to say that if these are authentic, you have a spectacular collection. The big one just left of center in the last pic...with the corner notch on one side, I love that- whatever it is.

[tomclark]

This your google page? Same point with other Grey Ghost types.... Try an acetone swab on it.

https://plus.google.com/photos/108403854135405134780/albums/5861302786232398737

[DRid123]

Thank you for your help. This is obviously a different hobby of collecting than it was years ago, legal issues now, as well as reproductions (for false reasons) and those that want to know how they were originally made. I respect that.

I owe Mr. Sam Clark a sincere apology. He was right there were some that had been produced, I think in attempts to learn the art..

I guess I have a lot to learn before passing these on through heritage as they were to me. I agree passing these on to a museum, they would never be seen.

Danny

[Hoss]

Modern knappers make them and sell them in honest ways. Some even sign their work. Then someone unscrupulous will buy them have them papered by a bad paper writer who will paper anything for money and resell them for big profits. It is ruining the hobby. Knapping itself is not a bad thing it is a great hobby and I encourage people to try it. It is not for everyone as it is hard work. You would be surprised there are thousands of people out there doing it every day as a hobby. If sold as Modern art or as a modern reproduction of a primitive weapon for study purposes it is a great thing as it adds to the education of the items. It is when the greedy dealer who is just in it for a buck gets a hold of it is when it hurts our hobby. We have a section here for Knappers and we have several very talented knappers who make posts here. All honest people who do this to educate and to create modern art using primitive techniques

[DRid123]

Thanks, guys. Temple is not too far away from me, so I'll contact him.

I am not after personal gain, just knowledge and advice. Not sure why fakes are out there, wouldn't they be difficult to reproduce? But, in our times, guess it could.

Again ,Thank you.

[Kyflintguy]

Good advice Hoss!

Nice collection Dridd, its easy for a few repros or fakes to slip into an old collection (or a new one)... It happens.

[Hoss]

I do not think Dwain has email but here is contact info for him.
Texas Flint Authentication
Dwain Rogers
4102 Birch Blvd.
Temple, TX 76502
(254) 791-5520

[Hoss]

Stick around and read up on some of the information we have available and ask questions we try and help other collectors here. We have people who have collected for years and people who are just starting out. Even those of us who have been at it for years have a lot to learn. This hobby will never cease to amaze you. The more I learn from it the more I realize the less I know about it.