Trying to i.d. some bases, need a little help.

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I'm usually pretty decent at point identification but these two are eluding me for some reason. Pretty sure there is enough here to make an I.d. or at least get close to something. Both of these were found on the site I hunt behind my house. SE Missouri finds. Might help to look in the south central and east central areas, as well as the north central, since I'm within a stones throw of the boundaries of each.

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The top one looks like an Adena narrow blade. The bottom looks like a beat up Adena variant.

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I was strongly considering adena variants myself. Wanted to see if others would be of the same opinion as well. Second one isn't as beat up as it looks in the pic, just not very good picture quality. Thanks for looking and assisting.

[Scorpion68]

BA - Looks like you're doing the same thing I've been doing for the past few weeks - trying to id points with only broken bases to analyze. It's a real challenge especially when you get to the bases that have so many similar characteristics.

[Tam]

Not going to ID but observations . Even though I am in Georgia I am on the Alabama boarder so like you suggesting I always look up that state for ID . I am more into period anyway unless it’s a killer .
You know that top one I would say made a kill . Look at the dynamics on how that was made . All the pressure being absorbed by that long base ( very cool BTW ) and the thickness of that base . Tip hit a bone maybe .