A frame of points collected by my great grandfather on the family farm

[wcubed]

These were all collected on the family farm in Albany County, NY.

When I mentioned that I had nearly 400 artifacts to identify, it was suggested by a member that i post some groups. My biggest reason for getting these identified is that someday I hope to pass these 3 collections on to my three sons someday, and I would like to catalogue as much as I can, point types, the family history of where they came from, etc., so that they will value them as more than just some rocks.

This particular frame, while a lot of points, are probably mostly all the same type, so I hope this many in one group is ok and won't be time consuming for anyone. If, not, I can post smaller groups. Many of the other frames are too varied, and I will have to do smaller groupings.

#11 has been identified as a Meadowood. I suspect many more are the same. #15 and #16 look like scrapers to me, but I don't know if there are different types. #22 is a drill or punch, but again, I don't know if there are types. #46 is a pentagonal point of some type, I believe.

I appreciate any input you may have.

[smbore]

what a great heirloom.. that's cool.

[smbore]

what a great heirloom.. that's cool. good peices.. outta my area. but someone will be along to help you out.

[Garguy]

2 is interesting

[Narrow Way Knapper]

#42 looks like a Lost Lake to me. Nice collection. 👍

[Narrow Way Knapper]

#42 looks like a Lost Lake to me. #2 is probably a Snyder. Nice collection. 👍

[Narrow Way Knapper]

Mattern This looks like your area of expertise. 😁

[wcubed]

If it will help, I can turn over each point in the case, and then repost. Or take individual photos of a particular point, if there is doubt.

[cgode]

#46 is a Jack’s Reef and a nice example.

[Hoss]

A lot to look at in that frame. 1 looks like a Normanskill point to me. 4,11,14and 21 are Meadowood points, 2 looks like a kirk made of some nice onandaga chert. I concru with Cgode 46 is a nice jacksreef corner notch . Quite a few of the small side notched points look to me like sylvan lake type points. 35 might be a susquehanna broad point or a dry brook . A couple in there resemble taconic phase points. Taconic phase belone to the Lamoka cluster . 3 , 6 and 28 look like dustin varients of the Lamoka type.
7 looks like a nice brewerton side notch. 36 , 41 and 42 look like brewerton corner notch
39 is a mystery to me . Basal notched points are very uncommon in New York . Not saying they dont exist however you may never be able to attribute that one to a type. take some picks of the pase of 39 is it broke? Could also be a JAcksreef corner notch with a broke base.

[Hoss]

You might enjoy using this link to help you figure some out on your own https://collections.nysm.nysed.gov/p...s/ritchie.html

[wcubed]

Is it fair to say you could lump quite a few of these smaller points into the Lamoka Cluster? According to http://www.projectilepoints.net/Clus...a_Cluster.html, It encompasses Dustin, Lamoka, and Normanskill.

[wcubed]

A lot to look at in that frame. 1 looks like a Normanskill point to me. 4,11,14and 21 are Meadowood points, 2 looks like a kirk made of some nice onandaga chert. I concru with Cgode 46 is a nice jacksreef corner notch . Quite a few of the small side notched points look to me like sylvan lake type points. 35 might be a susquehanna broad point or a dry brook . A couple in there resemble taconic phase points. Taconic phase belone to the Lamoka cluster . 3 , 6 and 28 look like dustin varients of the Lamoka type.
7 looks like a nice brewerton side notch. 36 , 41 and 42 look like brewerton corner notch
39 is a mystery to me . Basal notched points are very uncommon in New York . Not saying they dont exist however you may never be able to attribute that one to a type. take some picks of the pase of 39 is it broke? Could also be a JAcksreef corner notch with a broke base.

Sorry about the number of points. I thought more of them would be the same type. I'll try smaller batches next time.

I was wondering if a normanskill would make an appearance. while not the creek that runs through the family farm, it isn't that far away, but I never would have guessed #1 because the picture of a Normanskill looks quite a bit squatter whereas mine looks skinnier and longer.

The Jacks Reef I actually would have been the only one I would have gotten right because it is so distinctive, but i got cold feet because I failed so badly on #11 when I posted it individually.

So I'll go out on a limb on #39 after looking at your link. Vosburg. Now go ahead and laugh. lol

Then I would have tried lumping #19 and maybe a few of the other smaller skinny ones in with it as a lamoka. But I can see the sylan side notched on the ones that weren't so skinny.

Then, because #28 isn't that skinny, I would have called it a vestal notched and because it's so pointy.

What's my score? Probably failing. lol

Edit: But good catch on the base on #39. It does look like it is broken.

[Hoss]

Looks like that base broke in anient times and was reworked could be a corner notch brewerton?

[Tam]

Great collection . Really nice Hoss on your explanation . Got me going now enjoying your knowledge .

[Mattern]

Great collection wcubed. If you want I can ID most of them for you. They are very similar to what I find here in Pa. Welcome to arrowheads.com Kim